Flat Earth? Paul’s Writings Forged? QA 1st June 2016 Matsen Missler: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upcUOqdeyIs

TIMELESS PSYOP (NBC Fall 2016) – Flat Earth – Mandela Effect – Race Wars – Gospel Truth (Gonz/Face like the Sun): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gTeycsezII

The Biggest Secret Ever Kept In History REVEALED! (D13 Watchmen): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8qwg2EyHXg

I spoke about about “Flatland” and the hyper-dimensional cosmos as it pertains to FE back in October of last year, in this video – FE and the SECRET [hyper] SPACE PROGRAM – Part II (the Truth is stranger than fiction…): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Reg9S8xH8mg



  1. God said it was finished and rested. There are no sun's or stars or black holes being formed now and continuously in "space" I learned lots from missler and gonz, but missler has some strange connections to secret society folks,. And gonz, well his guests he chose to have was mark Sargent? I'm skeptical of both .

  2. I became a flatter through November 2015. I have been studying theoretical physics since first being introduced to it in science fiction books from my earliest visits to the library at the age of seven. At 61 years of age I had spent 45 years. Exploring everything from classical physics to the hyper dimensional physics of the Mars mission. For three months I struggled with the flat earth and thought that Foucault pendulum had saved me, only to discover that it speeds up slows down and may run backwards during solar eclipses! Finally I got together with a mechanical engineer and electrical engineer to settle the matter with a telescope at water level on the San Francisco Bay. We set up from seal point and look north at the Oakland bay bridge. According to NASA‘s calculations, the 320 feet of curvature should have hidden everything but the car port and below from our view. In fact we could see well beyond the bridge several miles to Angel Island. Likewise we traveled to Moss Landing halfway down the circumference of Monterey bay with full view of The Santa Cruz lighthouse to the north and Pacific Grove, A distance of exactly 30Miles across the horizon. Again several hundred feet of curve will be missing when a tripod is set up with a 4 foot level! That was all the proof I needed that there is no curvature. If there is no curvature there is no ball and all the rest falls into place nicely/ horribly!

  3. The purpose of our existence is not to construct anything, do anything, achieve anything materially. The Apkalu of the ancient anti-diluvian world and following, brought civilization to the world in the form of agriculture, husbandry, metallurgy, astronomy, government, city states, and war. These beings were generally understood to be hominid human like creatures from the skies above us, who appeared to be immortal and possess great knowledge and power, that used these civilizing sciences to enslave mankind through Religious Worship and Service to them instead of the actual Creator. (Who is blessed forever amen.). These civilizing forces/personalities, we realize today are “angels that kept not their first estate” and brought corruption and wickedness to man’s fallen state. They are Fallen mankind on steroids!
    Mankind was designed to live in anarchy like the indigenous peoples of north America, and Australia. Hunter gatherers with no written law, no government except respect, living from day today depending on their Creator for their daily substance as well as their reason for being. In the 21st-century the West Has won the race for cultural world dominance thru technology, by replacing ‘needs’ that so necessarily demanded so much of our time and energy in the past, and kept us out of mischief in the process, with “wants” instead. And a ‘producer’ society into a ‘consumer’ one, that ends up consuming its own soul instead. In the tribe/village we are more capable of learning the organic lessons of Life and how to let God’s Spirit conform ours into the likeness of Christ. Cities are cesspools of human degradation. Concentrations of evil and darkness that turn inward and get lost in purpose-less lives of entertainment. No worries. We knew this was all broken when we woke up here. Our job is to declare the Good News regardless of your circumstances. It’s not about what happens to you…it’s about how you react to it. Call on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and He will not disappoint you.

  4. It’s possible that all versions are correct as Gonz is suggesting my reason for that is the sensitivity I’ve become attuned to from studying scriptures where paradoxes are littered throughout the text. Something we should expect from the Almighty himself as we cannot begin to fathom and reconcile in our minds the wisdom and glory of his creative power.
    I understand the angle you are coming and the risk & pressures from unseen to those who are in full time ministry and are dependent on funds externally for support. I do not think though that all or at least the ones you’ve mentioned are guilty of that and one of the reason is that I’m a fruit of Chuck Missler ministry that helped stimulating me into a serious and in depth study of the scriptures and it has transformed my whole life. One of the trademark sayings of his is that we are not to be so married to a point of view that you’re not open to any revelation that the scriptures may show and encouraging his viewers to be like the Bereans. The Scripture below came to mind and feels it most applicable here..

    For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.”
    ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13:9-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬
    Love you brother and keep up the good work!👍 God bless🙏

  5. I certainly don’t have all the answers and I’m not here to start anything. I was just thinking if the earth is flat then how do eclipses work? Or if the earth is flat then there would be no need for tectonic plates that cause earthquakes? If the earth is flat what’s keeping the lava from melting through the bottom and what pushes it to the surface? And what has kept things in space from crashing into the dome and busting it because the Bible clearly says space is real and if space is real then why wouldn’t the rest of the stuff that is said to be in space be real?

  6. Chew on that flat earthers. He has a higher IQ than Einstein… Don't get triggered, I am interested in flat earth….is very interesting. I don't think us normal folk consider that perhaps the shape of the earth cannot be fully understood by us as humans. I am not science based so I see things as flat or not flat. But I have listened to many intelligent people that make me think most of us aren't allowing for all possibilities.

  7. Luke 16:8 , Mathew 8:8-12 . Scientists = clever False Believers = fool. The good teacher for you "True believers" is this professional pilot = Wolfie6020. Also and these videos = Jos Leys, CoolHardLogic, fiveredpears, and other Logic Christians : Run2Christ, The Flat Earth myth and the Bible. (Creation Magazine LIVE! 6-11), _ DEBUNKED – 75 "Flat Earth" Bible verses teach no such thing, _ DEBUNKED- Flat Earth Bible Verses Teach No Such Thing, _ Flattening the Flat Earth Theory (The Earth is NOT Flat) Bible Buzz # 25.

  8. They ignore it because they would lose their ministries.. just like the lie of hell, if they go there and see the truth they lose their ministry, just like I did.

  9. Gonz’s bread and butter is end times christian rapture nonsense. He would do NOTHING to ever jeopardize the little gravy train he has going. He’s a sell out and incapable and unwilling to see the truth. Stoped listening to him well over a year ago. Truth can not be compromised and gonz’ middle name is compromise

  10. Ok, …I thought you were going to fully explain to debunk Flat Earth or Globe; yet, you didn't. All you have said is describe what full ministers have identified. With all do respect with the passing of Brother Missler, I have yet to find a full teaching of his "the earth is flat in it's mathematical properties". I'm glad you agree of a "flat earth". Yet, you sound stuck in-between-two-worlds of thought or teachings. Look, I'm not against you. The more we explore the more we learn and reality hits – That's Research. I applaud you for this. But, until evidence can be set to debunk "Flat Earth": just how Globe evolutionist scientist have been debunked by simple use discoveries of physical earth properties and God's Holy Scripture, I don't think is a good idea to speaking against the heavy works of so many people that have dedicated to prove Evolution-science wrong. For example: Rob Skiba's efforts. One thing we all need to agree is that Evolution-science is being fully funded by a global government approach to keep a lie after another lie, and funded by all working class Tax Payers – which, gives them more advantage to "prove" their explaining findings. Yet, simple exploration on Flat Earth is evident everywhere we look at. Who's to say, that earth is Flat, yes, and is a huge planet in-housed or enclosed with a Firmament. Why the heck normal ppl like you and I cannot enter and explore Antarctica? Who gives them that right to bar any human entry to this part of Earth? There's so much more of that we cannot understand or gain knowledge to and it's all because of the indoctrination form of public school studies making it a norm of life. Even so many Christ Followers fail to comprehend The Holy Bible mentioning key words of our world.

  11. There are spiritual dimensions Biblical descriptions of the Heavenly realm that are not in the earthly realm. Ie the Lamb of God in heaven has 7 eyes. Did he have 7 eyes on Earth? what are you saying here? that the earth is flat, that if we sail far enough we'll hit a wall or fall off the end? that if it's daytime in New York it's day time in Tokyo? that there's an insanely effective disinformation effort by millions of people ie. pilots and sailors to cover up "the truth" that the world is flat? I really don't get the whole flat earth thing. It just seems … completely ridiculous and I don't see how anyone can seriously consider it. the flat earth movement is clearly effective in one thing: making Bible believers look ridiculous. I am a Bible believer and I do not believe that the Earth is flat nor do I think you have to believe the earth is flat in order to believe the Bible is true.

  12. Stephen Hawkings last theory turns out to be: the universe is a hologram! Sort of reminds you of the Biblical statements that this earth is transient and will pass away, will roll away like a scroll at the end. Sounds dimensional to me.

  13. It's simply emotionally true, because the world is so "skewed" our egos want to unite in something else, some allegory, yeah why do witches use the pentagram? The torus thing seems much cooler, talk of different dimensions with physics meaning is an unprecedented demonic portal on this planet? "Right Door", I heard a woman parent with this phrase.

  14. I really like Chuck Misslers teaching but on this issue he didn’t say anything. Can’t just say mathematical properties. Doesn’t mean anything. Basically he didn’t answer the question. Really smart guy so you have to wonder his reasoning not to answer.


    Earth Created Before the Sun: Genesis 1:1-19

    Universe is Complete, NOT ever expanding: Genesis 2:1

    Earth Measurements Unknown: Job 38:4-5, Jeremiah 31:37, Proverbs 25:3

    Earth is a Disk/Circle, not a ball: Isaiah 40:22, Job 38:13-14

    Earth Measured with a Line, not a curve: Job 38:4-5

    Paths are Straight, not curved: 1 Samuel 6:12, Psalm 5:8, Psalm 27:11, Isaiah 40:3, Jeremiah 31:9, Matthew 3:3, Mark 1:3, Luke 3:4, John 1:23, Acts 16:11, Acts 21:1, Hebrews 12:13

    Waters are Straight, not curved: Job 37:10

    Earthquakes shake Earth, and does not move: 2 Samuel 22:8, Isaiah 13:13, Revelation 6:12-13

    Earth is fixed and immovable: 1 Chronicles 16:30, Psalm 33:9, Psalm 93:1, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, Psalm 119:89-90, Isaiah 14:7, Isaiah 45:18, Zechariah 1:11

    “Be still, and know that I am God”: Psalm 46:10

    Earth has Pillars, and hangs on nothing: 1 Samuel 2:8, Job 9:6, Job 26:7, Psalm 75:3, 2 Peter 3:5

    Earth has a Face (a geometrical flat surface): Genesis 1:29, Genesis 4:14, Genesis 6:1, Genesis 6:7, Genesis 7:3, Genesis 7:4, Genesis 8:9, Genesis 11:8, Genesis 11:9, Genesis 41:56, Exodus 32:12, Exodus 33:16, Numbers 12:3, Deuteronomy 6:15, Deuteronomy 7:6, 1 Samuel 20:15, 1 Kings 13:34, Job 37:12, Psalm 104:30, Jeremiah 25:26, Jeremiah 28:16, Ezekiel 34:6, Ezekiel 38:20, Ezekiel 39:14, Amos 9:6, Amos 9:8, Zechariah 5:3

    Waters have a Face (a geometrical flat surface): Genesis 1:2, Genesis 7:18, Job 38:30

    Earth has Ends: Deuteronomy 28:49, Deuteronomy 28:64, Deuteronomy 33:17, 1 Samuel 2:10, Job 37:3, Job 38:13, Psalm 46:9, Psalm 48:10, Psalm 59:13, Psalm 61:2, Psalm 65:5, Psalm 67:7, Psalm 72:8, Psalm 98:3, Psalm 135:7, Proverbs 8:29, Proverbs 17:24, Proverbs 30:4, Isaiah 5:26, Isaiah 26:15, Isaiah 40:28, Isaiah 41:5, Isaiah 41:9, Isaiah 42:10, Isaiah 43:6, Isaiah 45:22, Isaiah 48:20, Isaiah 49:6, Isaiah 52:10, Jeremiah 10:13, Jeremiah 16:19, Jeremiah 25:31, Jeremiah 25:33, Jeremiah 51:16, Daniel 4:22, Micah 5:4, Zechariah 9:10, Acts 13:47

    Earth has Corners: Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1

    Firmament/Dome: Genesis 1:6-8, Genesis 1:14-18, Genesis 1:20, Genesis 7:11, Genesis 8:2, Job 37:18, Psalm 19:1, Psalm 150:1, Isaiah 40:22, Ezekiel 1:22-26, Ezekiel 10:1, Daniel 12:3

    Sun Moves, not the Earth: Genesis 15:12, Genesis 15:17, Genesis 19:23, Genesis 32:31, Exodus 17:12, Exodus 22:3, Exodus 22:26, Leviticus 22:7, Numbers 2:3, Numbers 21:11, Numbers 34:15, Deuteronomy 4:41, Deuteronomy 4:47, Deuteronomy 11:30, Deuteronomy 16:6, Deuteronomy 23:11, Deuteronomy 24:13, Deuteronomy 24:15, Joshua 1:15, Joshua 8:29, Joshua 10:27, Joshua 12:1, Joshua 13:5, Joshua 19:12, Joshua 19:27, Joshua 19:34, Judges 8:13, Judges 9:33, Judges 14:18, Judges 19:14, Judges 20:43, 2 Samuel 2:24, 2 Samuel 3:35, 2 Samuel 23:4, 1 Kings 22:36, 2 Chronicles 18:34, Psalm 50:1, Psalm 113:3, Ecclesiastes 1:5, Isaiah 41:25, Isaiah 45:6, Isaiah 59:19, Jeremiah 15:9, Daniel 6:14, Amos 8:9, Jonah 4:8, Micah 3:6, Nahum 3:17, Malachi 1:11, Matthew 5:45, Mark 16:2, Ephesians 4:26, James 1:11

    Sun STOPS moving: Isaiah 60:20, Job 9:7, Joshua 10:12-14, Habakkuk 3:11

    Sun moves BACKWARDS: 2 Kings 20:8-11

    Moon has its own Light: Genesis 1:16, Isaiah 13:10, Isaiah 30:26, Isaiah 60:19-20, Jeremiah 31:35, Matthew 24:29, Mark 13:24, Ezekiel 32:7, Revelation 21:23

    High Altitude Perspectives: Daniel 4:11, Daniel 4:20, Matthew 4:8

    Everyone Sees Jesus: Revelation 1:7

    New Jerusalem, the HUGE cube: Revelation 21:15-17

    “Breadth”, spread out FLAT, of the Earth: Revelation 20:9

    Matthews Bible from 1537 says “Flat Earth”: 2 Samuel 11:11

    Creation Worshippers: Deuteronomy 4:19, Deuteronomy 17:3, 2 Kings 23:5, Jeremiah 8:2

    God’s Word is ALWAYS Faithful and True: Jeremiah 42:5, Revelation 3:14, Revelation 19:11, Revelation 21:5, Revelation 22:6

  16. My dear brother in Christ, the earth is flat on which I totally agree and I believe everything that is in the Bible even the covers! But there there’s a negative boomerang reproach that you might encounter from your other fellow human beings if you say that and then if you try to support the Bible on another issues like what the Bible says what tradition says which don’t correspond always as you know. The reason I’m telling you all this, is because I had to confront people on other issues and when I mentioned the flat your theory….. I wasn’t taken serious and my word was reproached , on behalf as areprobate mind from them afterwords I had a really hard time turning things around…… please don’t misunderstand me …I guess I digress.
    May the Lord keep you and protect you brother!

  17. The facts of Gods creation destroys scientisim. The earth is exactly as described in the bible. The fact that the earth is without curvature defines the power and depth of Satanic global control Satan has over this world. However greater is he that is in uss then he who is in the world.

  18. Chuck is so smart he's stupid…hell, if you ever hear anyone that's been there is very real it's not a hologram.
    People like Missler are mind controlled and believe "science" instead of the word of God which clearly depicts a flat earth under a dome.
    The level of deception is breathtaking and there are a lot of folks that are gonna weep one day when they stand before the King.
    He will show them how haughty they were and the result of their arrogance leading others astray.

  19. More hypothetical answers to the question, if it was so easy to tell it was spherical, why are people saying different dimensionsand shit? I thought they knew it was a sphere before different dimensions were hypothesised? Where is the sphere? It is so obvious, but where is it?

  20. I cannot believe that people really believe the Earth is flat. You are dumb. It has to hurt to be that dumb. You are the same people that will be deceived in the end times because…you're just too dumb. Stop being dumb, for the sake of humanity.

  21. Of all Biblical teachers, I’ve probably given Missler more time than any other, however, I can’t help to strongly disagree with many of his theories. His reasons for pushing the Pre-Trib Rapture are downright sad. The fact that he never spoke against the FAKE Jews as opposed to the True (Black) Jews. His association with Calvary Chapel, which I cut ties with years ago because of their obvious disloyalty to any “unpopular” truths, to the strange way that the “world” (Ford, Department of Defense, mainstream media, etc) was so friendly and accommodating to him, to his sons being named Mark and Chip?! to him relocating to New Zealand of all places, to being on the Board of Directors to THAT many different companies, to being a leader in Satellites and yet never figuring out that in reality, Satellites don’t even exist and that we don’t live in a spinning ball or BAAL Earth! He has all the signs of being just another chosen Celebrity, set up from childhood to play a role and keep the masses believing the lie and mocking the truth. I’m no man’s judge but God’s Elect will always be despised for the hard and unpopular Truth they spit and for their Discernment, thanks be to God. Go check out his videos, in his most popular series, he’s pictured throwing up the 666 hand sign, just like all those in Hollywood! His lastest videos are all CGI! Just like most of today’s popular Music Videos. His office is located in FALLEN, Ohio. Perhaps this is all coincidence and out of his control but there are way too many red flags for me not to question the situation. And he passed on April 30, yet his funeral is scheduled for June 16?! Is that normal? How many normal people require 6 weeks to be buried?! Who knows…But Remember Peter’s warning about Satan heading straight for the “Church.” Be weary of All these large “Christian” business like The Vatican, Calvary Chapel, TBN, famous TV Evangelists like Billy Graham & Joel OSteen, Christian Celebrities like Russell Wilson, John Legend, Chic-a-filet and others who come “in His Name” (aka Christian) but who low-key promote Satan and his agenda. Do not be deceived. Those who say they are Jews, but are NOT, but LIE, they belong to the Synagogue (SIN-a-Gog) of Satan. -Rev. 3:9

  22. I hope chuck missler comes to know the truth of the our world before he leaves us! Maybe he has and he just doesn’t want to loose his credibility. Totally understandable though. That would be a hard thing to deal with once your famous and have a large fan base. I love chuck Missler though he’s been my go to for any thing bible for years.

  23. Good Job Bro-Cephus! IMHO They carefully skirted the plain evidence, not coming near enough to offend…..
    "The fear of man bring-eth a snare!"
    I should know, I have the very same stubborn problem from time to time!
    Discovering The Flat Earth has enhanced my FEAR of GOD and decreased my fear of man. Now that I have spent the time and physical ground work to satisfy myself. I am starting to understand the instructions in the OT were really given out of LOVE and Yeshua walked that walk to show us how, and attacked certain traditions & the hypocrites who made big business out of them, He never attacked the Torah! I think the OT looks like a training book to survive the current & coming test that we are all living. The disciples had Yeshua and only the OT scriptures and they walked it as close to Yeshua as they could until the end. Exciting Times!!
    Love you Bro_Cephus (Brother Rock)


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