Originally Aired on April 16, 2014
Link: http://www.canarycryradio.com/2014/04/16/ccr067-hugo-de-garis/

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE is already here. But how will the singularity, or the point at which machines achieve sentience be received by humanity? In this episode, Basil and Gonz are joined by Professor Hugo de Garis, author of the very fascinating book entitled The Artilect War: Cosmists vs. Terrans: A Bitter Controversy Concerning Whether Humanity Should Build Godlike Massively Intelligent Machines. Professor de Garis speculates that the major political clash of the 21st century will be between what he calls the Cosmists, who touts we should pursue creating godlike machines, and the Terrans, who touts this will lead to the destruction of mankind. While discussions about the potential of massively intelligent machines is currently reserved for the few, with movies like ‘Transcendance’ starring Johnny Depp hitting theatres, Professor Hugo de Garis believes that we are on the cusp of this topic hitting the mainstream. Currently, there are no clear lines drawn in the sand between Cosmists, Terrans, and even Cyborgians, yet it is impossible to deny that the seeds of the theories presented by Hugo de Garis are well watered and ready to sprout.

In this discussion, Basil and Gonz also dive deep into a discussion of the metaphysical properties theorized by Professor de Garis which led him to open up to the possibility of deism being true. While reductionist materialism has ruled the mainstream scientific and scholastic milieu, Hugo de Garis believes that science is reaching a point at which the distance between the spiritual or religious worldview and the scientific worldview are drawing ever closer. In fact, in conjunction to the Artilect War, de Garis believes that what the Cosmists are pursuing will eventually become an endeavour of religious fervor, and a necessary step in the evolution of mankind.

Professor hugo de Garis is an Australian native and a researcher in the subfield of artificial intelligence (AI) known as evolvable hardware. He became known in the 1990s for his research on the use of genetic algorithms to evolve neural networks using three-dimensional cellular automata inside field programmable gate arrays. He claimed that this approach would enable the creation of what he terms “artificial brains” which would quickly surpass human levels of intelligence. He has a PhD from Brussels University, Belgium author of 2 books. including “Multis and Monos : What the Multicultured Can Teach the Monocultured : Towards the Growth of a Global State” and “The Artilect War : Cosmists vs. Terrans : A Bitter Controversy Concerning Whether Humanity Should Build Godlike Massively Intelligent Machines”


Dr. Hugo de Garis’ Website Click HERE (http://profhugodegaris.wordpress.com/)



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  1. heres a crazy idea on how to survive the AI… We first develop the technology to live inside a virtual reality where our biological bodies are taken care of by medical machinery(not sentient AI) so we get our nutrients and stem cells and whatever whilst in some kind of medical bed, but we are fully immersed in a virtual reality that is nearly indistinguishable to reality. It has many fun advantages over the real world and lets say the masses embrace it and it becomes the standard way of living, a bit like living in the matrix… Then the super smart AI can be ran inside the simulation only, by law it is outlawed in the real world. That way the AI is never actually physical and even if it goes rogue and destroys us, it only destroys us in virtual reality, and then we wake up into the real world, once again a bit like the scene in the Matrix. So it could be a simulation or trail run of an AI, to see how it plays out, without the risk of running it live in the real world.

  2. I read Alistair Reynolds revelation space novels, where the galaxy has dormant stealth super advanced nano machinery that has a single goal, which is to detect and destroy advanced civilizations throughout the galaxy by wiping them out if they reach a threshold level of technology such as generation starships that travel to colonize other star systems to colonize their species there. This sort of technology was put in place after a galaxy wide war of super advanced civilizations that destroyed nearly everything.


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